Missing 411 & National Forest Disappearances | Ep. 63

Welcome to another episode of Believing the Bizarre. This week, we discuss Missing 411 – a close look at the many people that mysteriously go missing in the United States National Forests.

In fact, we even take a bit of a dive into the world of true crime. But not that far, don’t worry! We’re still discussing abductions, dimensions, feral people, and yes… mountain lions.

Is there a common denominator that ties many of these missing people cases together or could many different forces be at play? Listen now!

What’s up bizarros? Do you love long walks in the forest? Take a deep breath. Smell all that fresh air filling your lungs? 

*twig snap*

What was that? You turn around just in time to see the black bag going over your eyes. 

Congratulations! You are now one of the missing hikers that disappear every year in the national forests.

This week we dive into the case of people that go missing in the national forests.

There seems to be a pandemic of people going missing in national forests. 

The majority of people that have gone missing are disabled or somehow genetically different.

The odd thing is that the bodies of the people that have gone missing are found in places that have been searched already.

DeOrr Cuts went missing July 10, 2015

Everyone on the trip was a person of interest. Mom, dad, grandpa, and grandpa’s “friend” who came last minute. 

No clothes or footprints were found.

Mom, dad, and Isaac go to the stream to see where grandpa had caught some fish. 

Jr went with them about halfway and they assumed grandpa was with him. 

When they went back they realized no one had eyes on him. 

30 minutes later they called the police who called in dogs, and helicopters with infrared, and a search party looking for him.

They searched miles of the creek on foot. Animal dens throughout the area and there was no sign of DeOrr.

The parents went to the news station 3 days later.

Bobby Bizup disappeared in August at the Rocky Mountain NP in 1958.

Bobby was 10 years old.

3 people including a priest were camping in the mountains and set up the chapel on the rock. Where they were inspired by a “shooting star” to set up a summer camp.

Bobby, who was partially deaf and wore hearing aids, attended this camp in 1958.

Bobby was fishing on the 15th at camp and was approached by a counselor and was told it was dinner time, they had walked only a few steps and the counselor looked and Bobby had disappeared.

St. Malo is right next to Rocky Mountain NP 

Just like DeOrr, the path was clear and it made no scene that he was lost. 

They searched for 9 days. 

The next year 3 counselors who initially looked came back and found some scraps of clothes and a hearing aid, and eventually they found his body in a ravine they had searched 3 times. 

Where they found him seems almost impossible for him to get to. 

3 year old, Jaryd Atadero, went missing from Comanche Park, on October 2nd, 1999.

In 2003 two hikers found the first piece of evidence of an extremely clean shoe on a 2000 foot cliff. 

Jaryd was hiking on a very precarious trail to a fish farm with a church group.

He disappeared while being surrounded by people. 

They searched for 8 days. 

The two hikers found more of his clothes 550 feet up from where he went missing, where he couldn’t have gotten to on his own. With the clothes was a skull cap and a tooth sitting on a log.

The police said they searched there before. On the clothes that were found, there were no animal hairs and no blood.

David Gonzales went missing in 200. 

At 8 a.m. on a July day in 2004, David Gonzales asked his mother if he could have the car keys. There was a box of cookies in the car he wanted. The car was only 50 yards (46 meters) away, and his mother watched him as he walked to the parking lot near their Big Bear Lake campsite in Southern California’s San Bernardino National Forest. She turned her back for a second, and when she looked around again, Gonzales was gone.

His mother reported that she heard no sound at all when her back was turned, though she did see a beige truck speeding out of the campground around the time that her son went missing. Since there were no signs of abduction, authorities did not pursue that lead.

The cookies that Gonzales went to get were still in his family’s locked van, so he never made it to the car. Rescue teams in San Bernardino County scoured the woods for Gonzales. They found no signs of struggle or the boy. The search went on for nine days, but rescuers never found him alive.

Almost a year later, hikers stumbled upon the boy’s remains about a mile from his family’s campsite. Authorities chalked this up to a mountain lion attack, but how could a mountain lion have silently dragged a 9-year-old boy a mile without leaving any blood or signs of struggle?

What could be taking these people?

Aliens: 

Is there evidence of aliens taking the victims? A lot of these cases are about young people that are in relatively good shape, but could not go the distance they were either found at or ended up being from where they started. The child that traveled impossible distances?. How could these things be? Were they picked up and taken to these impossible places? Did aliens take them? Do they dispose of the body if the human ends up dying, or do they just leave it somewhere? 

Forest Monster: 

Are there undiscovered monsters in the forests? Some people think yes. Some think this is a sasquatch-like monster taking young people. Either for nefarious purposes or out of curiosity. 

Is there something more malevolent in the woods as well? Are there predators actively hunting in the woods for humans? 

Feral people: 

Tik Tok users claim that this may be the case.

It’s unclear exactly where it all began. However, on January 25th, a user named Ariele (@thepresentbeliever) posted a video about a strange experience she had in the Big Bend Area. 

In her video, she claims she was camping with her husband and daughter in Big Bend National Park. Later, on their 5th day, they stayed the night at the lodge in the basin and hung out on the patio.

At one point, they heard multiple people screaming off in the distance. Then a woman screamed, “we’re gonna die!” Ariele claimed the blood-curdling screaming went on. Finally, she heard a woman’s voice saying, “I love you, just know that.” 

She also alleged she heard a child screaming “mommy” and other voices saying “help” and “call a ranger.” 

Ariele said they immediately called the police and a park ranger, but they found nothing. She explained that they asked about the family the next day. But none of the park employees or park rangers knew what she was talking about. 

After Ariele’s video, other TikTok users started posting their own stories and theories about bizarre happenings in the wilderness. 

There are no official reports or documentation whatsoever to back up any of these claims, but the conspiracy theories persist.

What do you think Bizarros? What could be abducting these people in broad daylight in front of groups of people without anyone noticing? 

Aliens? Sasquatch? 

One thing is for certain: if you decide to go for a hike in the woods be very careful, or you could join this group of missing people.